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Comment 60 of 70, added on January 4th, 2008 at 3:17 PM.
I understand the whole poem except de lines where she say:
"The snows of the Tyrol, the cler beer of Vienna
Are not very pure, or true"
What does this mean? Does it symbolise her mother from Austria? Tyrol is an
alpine region in Austria, and Vienna the capital. This idiotic symbolism is
the only one i can imagine. Someone here who have understood those
sentences?
Eva
Comment 59 of 70, added on April 11th, 2007 at 1:29 AM.
Has anyone noticed the "anti-Christ" images in this poem? Line 46 includes
the words "Not God"-i.e. anti-God, anti-Christ to allude to whatever
authoritative male figure she has in mind; In lines 55-56 and 73 there is a
"black man" (55) who partakes in a perverse "communion" when he bites the
speaker's "pretty red heart in two" (56) and "[drinks] [her] blood for a
year" (73); and in numerous lines 31-35, 43-48, and 65 (to name a few)
there are allusions to Adolf Hitler--the man many believed was THE
"anti-Christ" Just thought I'd share that little tangent
Daniel Haney
Comment 58 of 70, added on December 25th, 2006 at 12:52 AM.
daddy is a poem written when hitler of germany was on his peak of torturing
people by disguisting techniques.here daddy is referred to hitler and his
harresments. plath being his sufferer in one or the other ways has very bad
image of his. she is suffocated in his rule so she reffers it to be a
smelly shoe. she had suffered in a young age so she wanted to kill him but
unfortunately he commited suiside{as per the book landmarks of 20th century
world history by hussain naqui)and plath missed a chance to kill him.she
expresses her frustration in the last line by adderessing hitlrt sa a
bastard.in all the poem reflects the mental or psychological impact of
hitler's rule.
jui from India
Comment 57 of 70, added on March 30th, 2006 at 6:09 PM.
Does anybody know the month and year this poem was published?
Stacey
Comment 56 of 70, added on March 28th, 2006 at 7:59 AM.
This poem is exquisite! I love the diction that Plath uses. Although this
poem is quite disturbing and upsetting, I love the drama and the hatred. I
am a very appealing person.
Staci from United States
Comment 55 of 70, added on March 27th, 2006 at 7:16 AM.
The reference to "the black telephone's off at the root" is a symbol of her
disconnecting to reality and to this world", her way of turning her back on
these memories.
nona from United States
Comment 54 of 70, added on March 13th, 2006 at 6:23 AM.
elle, for someone who has a degree you say some remarkably stupid things,
this is a forum where you discuss and voice ideas even if they seem wrong,
that is the whole point. to openly insult someone else is moronic, you
actually suck the big willy.
john from United Kingdom
Comment 53 of 70, added on February 23rd, 2006 at 6:43 AM.
First, I'd say this poem is striking- it's tone and rhythm really build up
an atmosphere of anger which is so uncomfortably intense that I almost feel
I'm intruding. Such deep, candid emotions are actually (in my opinion),
rarely seen in 20th century poetry in such a stark way. The unusual public
fascination with Plath's life (not given to many other poets) makes the
poem easier to make sense of and somehow more emotionally accessible, as we
know exactly what emotional damage she had sustained (and, of course the
irony of us knowing her ultimate fate).
I'd also say that I think it's a real shame that people post half-baked
and, even worse, badly written comments on here. This website is a great
idea and I've yet to find a similar one for all poetry with the possibility
of posting comments. At least the humorous ones make for light-reading,
especially the purple alien one which actually made me chuckle, but there's
a lot of badly thought out stuff on here, probably as a result of people's
ignorance and lack of intelligence really. I think these guys are out of
their depth here- back to Roald Dahl, people!
Anyhoo, e-mail me if you're in London and are interested in discussing this
kind of stuff.
Michael from United Kingdom
Comment 52 of 70, added on January 28th, 2006 at 5:33 PM.
I do not BELIEVE some of these comments. "Elle" BRAGS about her double
(dble) degree in English & Psychology, and denigrates a 14 year old (? how
does she know the age?) for her "not graspoing the English language", while
her own comments are replte with English errors in spelling, grammar ans
capitalizations. Talk about being BLIND to yourself!! Maybe she should have
concentrated on ONE major, and definitely neither one of those two, 'cause
she sucks at both. She confuses inappropriate & base insults ad hominem
with good criticism and slams "misuse" of the language by Jennifer with an
atrociously written polemic. Bah.
Oh - and she reeks with unjustified and unjustifiable arrogance. I side
with Jennifer. Go, girl.
Incidentally, I never saw so many gross mistakes in the writing of comments
devoted to a poem in the English language, and so much misinformation and
misinterpretation, as in what I just read. YAAAWN.
Genevieve from the US
Genevieve StClaire from United States
Comment 51 of 70, added on January 28th, 2006 at 12:47 AM.
A collage of childhood images of the father, a single shoe, the accent, the
foreign phrases, and the legacy of living with a fear of sickness leading
to death, afraid to even sneeze. The pain of the child's unresolved grief,
not permitted to say goodbye or have closure, abandoned and insecure. The
feeling of that the body has somehow been lost and is just missing and
needs to be found and put back together. Later in therapy, an image of the
father is sculpted, to facilitate dialogue with the father, and perhaps a
trip to Germany or Poland is taken, to trace the family roots, finding
familiarity in the accents and names, but no direct connection with the
father. The trip is an attempt to bring closure, but it is the train ride,
so evocative of the images of Jews and Gypsies going to the camps, that
provides the key to bring closure. The child 'demonizes' the father as the
Nazi, thus justifying her anger at the abandonment of death and enabling
her to 'kill' the demon and it's hold upon her life and emotions. Grief and
abandonment looms again at the death of her marriage and evokes her earlier
grief, as she struggles once more to 'kill' the new demon of abandonment
and release it's 7-year grip on her heart, mind and energies.
Pip from United States
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I understand the whole poem except de lines where she say:
"The snows of the Tyrol, the cler beer of Vienna
Are not very pure, or true"
What does this mean? Does it symbolise her mother from Austria? Tyrol is an
alpine region in Austria, and Vienna the capital. This idiotic symbolism is
the only one i can imagine. Someone here who have understood those
sentences?
Eva