Comment 8 of 8, added on May 21st, 2008 at 9:40 AM.
jill w really makes a good point. Hey casey, you probabley dont know this,
but the bible clearly states that God is a being who loves everyone, even
those who dont love him. "how much one worships and pays
tribute" has nothing to do with God's love for us. Jesus was actually one
of the first voices that spoke against that mindset. The pharisees (sp?)
were the sanctimonious religious hot shots of cerca 0 A.D. Jesus, who's
common image is extremely inaccurate, was the one who called them
hypocrites. Crane used the passage totally out of context, but present an
idea that Jesus advocated himself. He wasn't bashing God or even organized
religion. He was stating a profound theological concept and theme found
throughout the Bible.
thinker from United States
Comment 7 of 8, added on February 19th, 2008 at 6:34 PM.
crane is telling the clergy of christendom, who teach that Jehovah is a God
of retribution only, that they can go jump in a lake. I don't blame him.
But the scripture mustn't be misunderstood. It is quoted from Deuteronomy
5:9. The context is a restating of the 10 commandments and the fact that
we should not serve any gods except for Jehovah himself. The Mosaic Law
itself is clear that only the guilty should be punished, and no one else,
including the children of the accused. However, in this is talking about
worship, and the Bible is clear, that after reaching an age of
responsibility, each individual Israelite was judged on the basis of his
own conduct and attitude. But when the nation of Israel turned to idolatry,
it suffered the consequences of this for generations thereafter. Even the
faithful Israelites felt its effects in that the nationís religious
delinquency made staying on a course of integrity difficult for them.
But as I said before, Cristendom's clergy teach lies about God, and
thinking people like Crane here are moved to speak out against their
hypocracy. But be sure to note that it is these so called Teachers and
Leaders who are to blame for attitudes like Cranes, and not Jehovah or his
from United States
Comment 6 of 8, added on August 26th, 2005 at 6:10 AM.
Is God stating a psychic law like a physical one such as: "if you leave
your hand in a hot fire it will burn your skin and flesh through to the
very bone "
Or, is God announcing His intension in an egotistical way; this is what
Stephen Crane is referring to.
See also the other poem "Think as I think," said a man " ...better be a
toad than a toady for such an unrighteous God!
Comment 5 of 8, added on May 30th, 2005 at 8:37 PM.
This poem is excellent because it reveals the hypocracy inherent within the
Bible and thus within religion; it reveals the extent to which God is
unjust--his "love" based superficially upon how much one worships and pays
tribute. A god who condemns man for using the free will He supposedly
granted him (the ability to think for oneself and thus have the ability to
chooses not to blindly follow) is an unjust god, a greedy god, and a
lustful god who cares not for His creation, loves not all His children, but
cares only for His own ego. I loved Crane's poem!
Casey from United States
Comment 4 of 8, added on May 22nd, 2005 at 11:59 AM.
I do not think the scripture used in this poem is going against what the
bible intended. I think Stepehn Crane intended to show that we do not learn
from our mistakes and that we should do the best we can to not let history
Jennifer P from United States
Comment 3 of 8, added on April 17th, 2005 at 9:59 PM.
I do not like this poem to much because it starts with a Bible verse, and
then the author says that he is going against it, like he WANTS his sin to
carry on for generations!
Comment 2 of 8, added on March 15th, 2005 at 8:55 PM.
i dont really like the poem couse i dont think thats what the bible or God
intended for you to rescive read and prey and descide for your self is what
from United States
Comment 1 of 8, added on November 1st, 2004 at 8:39 PM.
although this poem begins in scripture (ie the bible) the author totally
mis-represents the scpiptures message, by choosing to leave out the
importatn bit - the second half of the promise "but my blessing shall
remain on him who follows me, even to the thousanth generation" We have a
choice - wrath or blessing. Choose blessing!
from New Zealand