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Comment 15 of 95, added on February 26th, 2008 at 11:17 AM.
she is AWSOME!!!!!!!!!:)
katie from United States
Comment 14 of 95, added on October 2nd, 2007 at 10:54 PM.
I have been thinking about the stanza that I believe is a turning point in
the poem and Im trying to interpret the words correctly so that it makes
sense (to me) and fits with the rest of the poem which I think I got by
I used Merriam-Webster dictionary online for this and checked some (now)
outdated uses of the words, which were the standard at the time Emily
Dickison was alive.
Mortality is fatal
Gentility is fine,
To me, the word "fatal" is used here as "decreed, controlled, or marked by
fate." We have to die and that will no doubt happen.
By "gentility" she might be referring to strong and courageous people. Like
the ones she has referred to as her heroes.
When she says "rascality", I guess that Dickinson is probably thinking of a
crowd of people (in this case, fighting together for a common cause.)
And to me, by "insolvency" she means the deprivation from richness
(according to The Bible -if I remember rightly- a rich man will not easily
make it to Heaven.)
It would be awesome to read and 'see' what you think. Thank you!
Comment 13 of 95, added on April 10th, 2007 at 12:39 PM.
I too am a fan of the song, Sic Transit Gloria . . . Gloria Fades, by Brand
New! At first glance I did not think there was any relation between the
two, but if you you look up the Latin words you can make a few connections.
This is just my opinion and my thoughts. The song is talking about a boy
who is pressured into having sex. I think at first it was something he
wanted but was also pressured by his friends. Here comes that phrase,
everyone is doing it. In our society today sex is no big deal, but I
believe it is supposed to be a sign of covenant between a husband a wife.
The Latin phrase, "sic transit gloria mundi" meaning, so passes worldly
glory. In a sense I feel the world tells us that it is ok to have multiple
sex partners, almost as if your "glorified" for having lots of sex.
Although in the poem there is the underlying wisper of "size the day" I
think the song is against that, "Die young and save yourself" "memento
mori"(remember you are mortal). Maybe its a stretch, but those little bits
and pieces jumped out at me. Maybe Brand New just took little parts of the
poem to construct their song and maybe they have no idea the poem even
exists. Then again if you look at the over all meaning of both, I think
they are two different topics.
from United States
Comment 12 of 95, added on April 8th, 2007 at 3:56 AM.
Very interesting...but some of the comments posted are
getting to be as interesting as the poets- except for
those saying "why aren't they written in english". I think some ppl should
realise THIS is their "ENGLISH".
Comment 11 of 95, added on February 19th, 2006 at 8:57 AM.
Hey i am also facinated with the song by a band named Brand New called Sic
Transit Gloria...Gloria Fades. I always loved the song for its beat and
whispers however i just found the lyrics and figured what it was saying.
Wow it is amazing! Finaly someone wrote something about the guy being
presured into sex. however, i also was looking deeper and i found this poem
and too was wondering if there was any connection with this poem and the
from United States
Comment 10 of 95, added on December 30th, 2005 at 9:12 AM.
Thank you Kadan for a wonderfully insightful review. I'm not a studen of
Latin, but after your analysis feel I probably should be. I too find the
glaring absense of Carpe Diem interesting and wonder if its exclusion might
be a comment on the life of a contemplative.
And Bojana, yes, I was struck by the exact same poetic phrase that you so
deftly pointed out - to be interpreted each by their own life's experiences
- yours... freedom. I love the line "Mortality is fatal". What a
wonderful wit Ms. Dickinson!
Commencing in 1982, I took a few courses from a wonderful professor, Dr.
Hastings Moore, at the University of Colorado; the first of which was
entitled "Emily Dickinson - An Apophatic Poet". To this day, I can still
cite about 30 of her poems that elucidate simply and beautifully so many
The courses, the works, and the concepts provided therein changed my
thinking and redirected my life forevermore (a lofty claim to be sure, and
one not to be made lightly) - from critical thinking, spiritual ideas,
religion, poetry, and living/viewing life from "the circumference".
If curious (as a young woman, I was... and still am... curious!), I
recommend "The Neighborhood of IS" by Dr. Moore to the seasoned
contemplative as well as to anyone filled with curiousity and wonder of the
Divine as Emily certainly was. Delve in to the apophatic! Enter the Cloud
of Unknowing! Expand your depth and breadth!
Genevieve from United States
Comment 9 of 95, added on December 12th, 2005 at 10:40 PM.
i dont think theres any connection between the brand new song and her poem.
since the latin part basically means, glory fades, they just kinda put it
there in latin. at least..thats my spin on it.
tho..i must admit thats the reason why i looked at the poem. =P
karol from United States
Comment 8 of 95, added on November 23rd, 2005 at 11:32 AM.
i keep returning to this page to read this poem - again and again. after i
am thru, i view the comments to see if anybody has anything new to say; and
there always is.
from United States
Comment 7 of 95, added on October 26th, 2005 at 1:51 PM.
heh..hello to everyone!
so...emily dickinson...huh.....the words are meaningless when i try to
explain whaat kind of emotions emily is producing in me when im reading her
poetry. Iwas at age of 16 when i first ahd a chance to meet with her..in my
thoughts through hers. Then after reading one book of her, i felt such urge
to find everything bout her, what is related with her and stuff. So next
thing I found was "Amherst's beauty" an really extraordinary book,
containing one play that was written by emily's thoughts but put up
together from her's close friend in a way he think thta emily would like to
do it. From that moment i was obsessed with thta kind of thought
structure-like a play......huh im sorry my english is not so good but i
hope u know about what kinda art im talking about...:)
.........ok, now bout this song
so Kadan explains us and me a lot of things[thanks:)], now there is some,
sholud i say easier part, called decribing emotions while and after reading
this song.... i think that this part of song is...
: Mortality is fatal --
Gentility is fine,
That kind of expressions and showing her enthusiasm for nature for liberty,
that emotions that most higher good in every one of us, so if liberty is
highest good in us, that is the main reason for us to celebrate it, and in
the moment someone took us from us in thta very moment you dont exist
anymore, living dead that has no spiritual reasons for living. So,
according to her spirit, that lion's strength, she realised that most
exciting thing in life, our oh-so-passing life is to celebrtae our freedom,
while we have it. in moment we loose her we can easily go six feet
huge huge greething from serbia......
better days for all of us...........
Comment 6 of 95, added on October 12th, 2005 at 10:09 PM.
I'm glad we know the proper use for this cite.
now about the poem: Loomis asked what was ment by "sic transit gloria
mundi" and i answer that. it is Latin meaning "so passes worldly glory" or
more normaly "fame fades", in fact this poem is riddled with latin, it also
contains "dum vivimus vivamus"(let us live while we live), "veni,vidi,
vici"( i came, i saw, i conquered), "caput"(head), "cap-a pie"(from head to
foot), and "memento mori"(remember you are mortal) all of these phrases
have to do with the posibly most famous latin phrase: "carpe diem" "seize
the day" but that is the only one not there, i find that interesting.
Kadan Joelavich from United States
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