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Poet: Emily Dickinson
Poem: 1449.
I thought the Train would never come --
Volume: Complete Poems of Emily Dickinson
Year: Published/Written in 1955
Comment 3 of 3, added on February 12th, 2012 at 12:31 AM.
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Pirouz,The ecivende of what was happening on the ground yesterday did not come primarily through the videos but through eyewitness accounts, some from participants, some from observers. There were at least six LiveBlogs — BBC Persian, Mardomak, Tehran Bureau, and the network of EA-Iran News Now-Dissected News — posting as information was received, and Reya Sayah of CNN and Deutsche Welle also were reporting based on witnesses.Any critique of what occurred should begin with that information — confirming or refuting it with other information, if that is possible. Those accounts are consistent in reporting a security deployment which was “unusual”, even by the standards of post-June 2009 policing. A good account on Deutsche Welle, which said the marches were larger than 14 or 20 February, added the telling note that this number was matched by the number of security forces facing the protesters.I am secure in saying that your estimate is low. Some witnesses in Tehran said the marches were about the same size as 14 and 20 Feburary; others said larger; a couple said smaller. “Thousands” is a conservative starting point, but a number in the “low tens of thousands”, comparable to 14 February, is certainly possible.Outside Tehran, witness accounts point to more demos, with more people, than on 20 February. Shiraz and Tabriz had clashes and reports of numerous arrest. Mashhad’s security deployment again appears to have prevented a rally, but in Isfahan there was a “silent protest” with significant participation. Other demos were reported from Rasht to Kermanshah.I think the last paragraph of our opening reading — posted below — holds. The opposition have established that, despite the attempts to write them off completely, they are present and can show that presence in public. What they have not established is where they go next politically, especially given the difficulties in co-ordination between groups.S.
Vivek from New Zealand
Comment 2 of 3, added on January 31st, 2012 at 7:29 AM.
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Comment 1 of 3, added on January 31st, 2012 at 7:27 AM.
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Pirouz,The ecivende of what was happening on the ground yesterday did not come primarily through the videos but through eyewitness accounts, some from participants, some from observers. There were at least six LiveBlogs — BBC Persian, Mardomak, Tehran Bureau, and the network of EA-Iran News Now-Dissected News — posting as information was received, and Reya Sayah of CNN and Deutsche Welle also were reporting based on witnesses.Any critique of what occurred should begin with that information — confirming or refuting it with other information, if that is possible. Those accounts are consistent in reporting a security deployment which was “unusual”, even by the standards of post-June 2009 policing. A good account on Deutsche Welle, which said the marches were larger than 14 or 20 February, added the telling note that this number was matched by the number of security forces facing the protesters.I am secure in saying that your estimate is low. Some witnesses in Tehran said the marches were about the same size as 14 and 20 Feburary; others said larger; a couple said smaller. “Thousands” is a conservative starting point, but a number in the “low tens of thousands”, comparable to 14 February, is certainly possible.Outside Tehran, witness accounts point to more demos, with more people, than on 20 February. Shiraz and Tabriz had clashes and reports of numerous arrest. Mashhad’s security deployment again appears to have prevented a rally, but in Isfahan there was a “silent protest” with significant participation. Other demos were reported from Rasht to Kermanshah.I think the last paragraph of our opening reading — posted below — holds. The opposition have established that, despite the attempts to write them off completely, they are present and can show that presence in public. What they have not established is where they go next politically, especially given the difficulties in co-ordination between groups.S.
Vivek from New Zealand