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Analysis and comments on A Valediction Forbidding Mourning by Adrienne Rich

Comment 2 of 2, added on November 3rd, 2005 at 4:59 PM.

this poem is definitely a response to John Donne's poem "A Valediction:
Forbidding Mourning"

A Valediction Forbidding Mourning
My swirling wants. Your frozen lips. (Expresses unrequited love; frozen
lips…lips are a symbol of sensuality and she is talking about Donne’s lips,
how they are cold, meaning without heart and love)
The grammar turned and attacked me. (Literal level: the structure and tight
rhyme scheme of the Donne poem was shocking; figurative level: Donne is
talking about death and leaving and he is telling his lover that she should
not mourn and she should just accept the death of her husband)
Themes, written under duress. (Themes, written under constraint; confined;
he is talking about love in a confined manner)
Emptiness of the notations. (The heartlessness that Donne expresses by
forbidding mourning)

They gave me a drug that slowed the healing of wounds. (She is
contradicting Donne’s idea that the love should be forgotten when the
speaker dies and that the lover should not mourn by saying that they gave
her a drug that slowed down the healing…she prolonged the mourning of her
lost love rather than shortening it)

I want you to see this before I leave: (she remarks how she would deal
with love right before death)
the experience of repetition as death (death is not the end of the love;
repetition in the sense of the circles that are created in Donne’s poem;
the cycles are death)
the failure of criticism to locate the pain (wants to avoid the pains of
leaving a loved one behind)
the poster in the bus that said:
my bleeding is under control (Donne is trying to control other’s
reactions to his own death; he is trying to control his bleeding, control
his death; doesn’t want his lover to mourn)

A red plant in a cemetary of plastic wreaths. (Standing out of the crowd;
red=blood; cemetery reinforces the idea of death; plastic symbolizes
fakeness; the fake valediction
Valediction=an act of bidding farewell)

A last attempt: the language is a dialect called metaphor. (She recognizes
Donne’s use of metaphors to express his valediction; metaphors in Donne’s
poem=”the breath goes now”, the compass)
These images go unglossed: hair, glacier, flashlight. (Images that are not
superficially deceptive like those used in Donne’s poem)
When I think of a landscape I am thinking of a time. (Time is mentioned to
represent how it takes time to mourn a lover and that one should not be
forbidden to mourn their loved one after death)
When I talk of taking a trip I mean forever. (Donne is deceptive in the
way he describes his deathbed; he talks about death as if he will be back
again, that he is just going on a vacation, but in reality, he will not be
coming back at all. Rich addresses this blurred sense of “taking a trip” by
saying that “I mean forever” …she will never be coming back after death)
I could say: those mountains have a meaning (she could say that the
mountains have meaning in that everything can be attached to meaning but
…)
but further than that I could not say. (she does not think that that
meaning is of any importance)

To do something very common, in my own way. (She is expressing her own
thoughts on love and death and relating it to Donne’s poem. Something very
common is writing poetry about love and death, saying goodbye to a loved
one on deathbed. She is declaring that her purpose in writing the poem is
to do this in her own way; she would not forbid mourning as john donne
would, she would prolong it as written in the line “They gave me a drug
that slowed the healing of wounds”)

these are my thoughts as i am pre-writing for my paper.


Samantha Nourse from United States
Comment 1 of 2, added on October 23rd, 2005 at 12:11 AM.

This poem is a comment on John Donne's poem...

It is a satiric response....

My swirling wants. Your frozen lips. (unrequited love)
The grammar turned and attacked me. (she doesn't understand... shocked by
the implications of the poem)
Themes, written under duress. (confused. "Do ppl actually think like
that?")
Emptiness of the notations. (She doesn't believe in the themes)

They gave me a drug that slowed the healing of wounds. (the pain of her own
love life is being enhanced by the obviousnous of some ancient guy - Donne
- getting action)

I want you to see this before I leave:
the experience of repetition as death
the failure of criticism to locate the pain
the poster in the bus that said:
my bleeding is under control (comments on how she felt as she read the
poem)

A red plant in a cemetary of plastic wreaths. (she thinks that maybe she is
alone in pain)

A last attempt: the language is a dialect called metaphor. (she thinks that
maybe it's all a joke...)
These images go unglossed: hair, glacier, flashlight. (Metaphysical poets
like Donne used weird and unusual conceits and metaphors... maybe she is
commenting on it)
When I think of a landscape I am thinking of a time. (she believes in
history (time) of structures, like landscape)
When I talk of taking a trip I mean forever. (she believes in a life
journey)
I could say: those mountains have a meaning (maybe she's implying that
colossal thoughts, universal thoughs - "why r we here?" - have a use in
life)
but further than that I could not say. (but her insignoificance on Earth
has no relevance to anyone but those around her... so her opinion is not
important.... maybe she doesn't understand the use of thoughts... maybe she
enjoys these thoughts)

To do something very common, in my own way. (WTF?!)

I dunno... the poem is dodgy... my English teacher said it was good... so i
thought i'd read it... and then check out the comments to help me
understand it....

No one had commented... so daaayam!!! anyway, hopefully MY thoughts will
help someone else, to write something, to help me....

lol... I'm confused now =)

FulySikhChik,
(16,Female,Austr)

PS: I'm only a student so don't laugh at me, k? *puppy dog eyes*



FulySikhChik from Australia



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