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Comment 22 of 52, added on October 27th, 2010 at 12:00 AM.
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Comment 21 of 52, added on June 13th, 2010 at 5:45 AM.
Dramatic Character
This poem is impersonal in nature and the speaker is a dramatic character,a
soldier, who had been killed in the war.Yet the irony womb, and imagery
recalls the earlier mother womb.The poet begins with the abstract yet
unhappy assertion in the first line.Ball Turret us fighter plane and the
setting of this poem is battle field inside the fighter plane.So this poem
is highly symbolic and full of irony.
From my mother's womb, I fell into the state, where state refers for the
mechanism or that stands for the condition of the speaker.Staying silently
inside fighter plane and plane is is in the sky over six miles from the
earth.Here we can see how poet imagine the post humors situation.
He compare both wombs. Mother womb and womb if fighter plane.Both is full
of darkness and constrained,
This soldier is not born because he cannot experience outer life.So,i can
say that the child was transplanted from one womb to another womb (inside
the fighter plane)
Last line of the poem is very ironical.Poet imagine post humors
situation,He say they wash me out of the Turret with a hose.So after that
nothing would remain of me.It means when the soldier died, the state tried
to erase the historical trace,And the history will be written from the
perspective of the state, but not in favor of dead soldier.So the poet
clearly shows the instrumental use of soldier in the battle field.So the
fighter plane here compared with the mother womb which has no light.Before
the soldier dies he is given the hope of history but after he dies, same
people turns the history into the historiography and the soldier fighting
for the nation are the victim of Historiography.So when i calmly think
about poet attitude i found he want universal brotherhood, And he believe
in love,care and respect and loyalty.Not in war.
Kaurav Bogati
GPO Box: 24587, Kathmandu Nepal
email:kauravbogati@hotmail.com
Kaurav Bogati from Nepal
Comment 20 of 52, added on July 11th, 2009 at 3:57 PM.
Just to state the obvious, poems aren't about literal (to the letter)
representations. They are deliberately ambiguous, and use meter, rhyme,
etc. as a kind of 'head fake' to make you move one direction and surprise
you by winding up somewhere else. Abortion is not 'in there' but is
consistent with what is there - the issues of 'state vs. individual,'
'choice vs. right to life' are illuminated by the words. It is what the
scientists call a 'thought experiment.' Loosen up, y'all!
Holland Whitten from United States
Comment 19 of 52, added on March 13th, 2009 at 8:05 AM.
Just as a side note, during the war, airplanes were often referred to as a
womb. Here's an example from Catch-22 "Doc Daneeka had been told that
people who enjoyed climbing into an airplane were really giving vent to a
subconcious desire to climb back into the womb" Chapter 4 "Doc Daneeka"
Hilary from United States
Comment 18 of 52, added on December 2nd, 2008 at 6:39 PM.
Clearly, none of you guys are helping. Its great that you have your own
opinions and crap but lets get to the bottom of this poem
FIRSt of all, this poem is about life and death and the use of the words
"fetus" and "womb" is to symbolize the ball turret gunner in its protective
state; however in the fetus, he still wasnt born yet.
So, this turret gunner is just sad because he didnt get to live life and
all of a sudden, he died. Clearly this piece is about life and death. DUHHH
Aléin C. from United States
Comment 17 of 52, added on October 22nd, 2008 at 11:59 PM.
Yes, this is about abortion, whether Jarrell intended that or not.
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Comment 16 of 52, added on October 22nd, 2008 at 11:45 PM.
Did any of you think of this poem with biographical implications? I
strongly disagree with the notions of it being either a simple poem or one
about abortion.
poetryeater from United States
Comment 15 of 52, added on February 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 PM.
You are correct- Abortion was not an issue at the time.
However, Bill, I do not agree that the description is ALL. Jarrell
purposely uses the word State to show how the State, or the government, is
the cause of this war. I'm not sure if he is asking for reform or simply
airing complaints, but he shows how the State takes us, uses us and
discards us when it is done.
Nathan from United States
Comment 14 of 52, added on April 14th, 2007 at 6:08 PM.
This isn't about abortion listen to what Jarrell himslef said. A ball
turret was a plexiglass sphere set into the belly of a B-17 or B-24, and
inhabited by two .50 caliber machine guns and one man, a short small man.
When this gunne tracked whith his machine-guns a fighter attaking his
bomber from below, he revolved with the turret; hunched upside-deown in his
little sphere, he looked like the foetus in the womb. The fighters which
attacked him were armed with cannon firing explosive shells. The hose was a
steam hose." No where in there does he mention abortion. (This is from the
notes of his book The Complete Poems by Randall Jarrell)
Matt from United States
Comment 13 of 52, added on April 2nd, 2007 at 9:52 PM.
Yes i agree with Darkbeat from the United States on the subject of
abortion, "in that time, no such things could be done, and in that itme no
such things were said..." Darkbeat, refresh my memory, what was one of Anne
Sextons most famous poems again?
Assfeltch300
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