Comment 2 of 2, added on March 13th, 2012 at 6:33 AM.
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Unknown Unknowns says: March 1, 2011 at 12:19 pmThank you for your
comments.I am in agrmeeent with much of what you wrote.But I disagree with
you on the claim to Univesalism: this has been the authentic claim of the
Revelations; applicable to all men for all times; first made by
Zoroaster.Quranic multiplicty is one of tribes and nations and customs and
not one of Revelations. There is only one single Quran and one Single
Revelation shared by all the Prophets.The Enlightenment Tradition
approporiated the universlait claim from Catholic Church, in my opinion.I
agree with the error that you have identified: the attempt at creation of
Heaven on Earth through collective human action. That path for the
relaization of that project is truly the Path of the Lost (alzalin). For
Mankind, in the State of Fall, cannot Redeem himself but with the Grace of
God which -unfortunately, does not seem to be forthcoming soon.To put it
in another way, the claim that an Islamic Just society should be the aim of
the Muslim State also begs the question of why then there is a need for the
Al Mahdi (or the 12-th Imam)?I do not think that the situation is complex
at all.I think it actually quite simple what needs to be done.One needs to
re-evaluate and critique all of Muslim, Christain, and Judaic Traditions in
the light of the Quran and Kalam and existing Muslim, Christain, and Judaic
Traditions in a self-consistent manner. The first step, in my opinion,
is to start the scholarly process of recovering the previous (to Muslim
Quran) Revelations. Once the scope of Revelations has been enlarged, then
a Muslim response to Judaism, Christianity, and (Godless) Modernity can be
formulated.This will no doubt take a few centuries, but there is no other
way, in my opinion.
Darija from
Malta
Unknown Unknowns says: March 1, 2011 at 12:19 pmThank you for your
comments.I am in agrmeeent with much of what you wrote.But I disagree with
you on the claim to Univesalism: this has been the authentic claim of the
Revelations; applicable to all men for all times; first made by
Zoroaster.Quranic multiplicty is one of tribes and nations and customs and
not one of Revelations. There is only one single Quran and one Single
Revelation shared by all the Prophets.The Enlightenment Tradition
approporiated the universlait claim from Catholic Church, in my opinion.I
agree with the error that you have identified: the attempt at creation of
Heaven on Earth through collective human action. That path for the
relaization of that project is truly the Path of the Lost (alzalin). For
Mankind, in the State of Fall, cannot Redeem himself but with the Grace of
God which -unfortunately, does not seem to be forthcoming soon.To put it
in another way, the claim that an Islamic Just society should be the aim of
the Muslim State also begs the question of why then there is a need for the
Al Mahdi (or the 12-th Imam)?I do not think that the situation is complex
at all.I think it actually quite simple what needs to be done.One needs to
re-evaluate and critique all of Muslim, Christain, and Judaic Traditions in
the light of the Quran and Kalam and existing Muslim, Christain, and Judaic
Traditions in a self-consistent manner. The first step, in my opinion,
is to start the scholarly process of recovering the previous (to Muslim
Quran) Revelations. Once the scope of Revelations has been enlarged, then
a Muslim response to Judaism, Christianity, and (Godless) Modernity can be
formulated.This will no doubt take a few centuries, but there is no other
way, in my opinion.
Darija from Malta